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Re: A summary of the Fly changes/issues through the years, and a brief history of Parker Guitars

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2022 8:17 pm
by vjmanzo
Correct, the pre-refined Flys for certain had the same fretboard material on the presentation side of the headstock (and the 2” strip of composite extending from the neck to about the 5th tuning peg a la the image on the parts page).

Here are some photos of that I just took:
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I think the refined Flys do still have that part—it appears that way. Perhaps one of our members that worked at Parker Guitars during the USM-era can confirm.

Re: A summary of the Fly changes/issues through the years, and a brief history of Parker Guitars

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2022 10:19 pm
by Gregsaab
Pretty great that you have that piece on hand, thank you for verifying that for me. Just noticed it last week, just wasn’t sure.

Edit: missed the bit after photos. My 2011 certainly doesn’t seem to have CF.

Re: A summary of the Fly changes/issues through the years, and a brief history of Parker Guitars

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2022 10:38 pm
by vjmanzo
Gregsaab wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 10:19 pm Pretty great that you have that piece on hand, thank you for verifying that for me.
No problem! Yeah, like many of us, my studio is somewhat of a Parker Guitars museum/shrine! :lol:
Gregsaab wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 10:19 pm My 2011 certainly doesn’t seem to have CF.
Hmmm…interesting…I have a 2011 Mojo and it does have that:
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It’s only function is cosmetic, so I suppose it could have been dropped in some cases.

Re: A summary of the Fly changes/issues through the years, and a brief history of Parker Guitars

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2022 11:49 pm
by Gregsaab
There is a difference between mine — can see hexagons on Deluxe, whereas the Mojo almost looks bead blasted
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Re: A summary of the Fly changes/issues through the years, and a brief history of Parker Guitars

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 12:05 am
by vjmanzo
Ahhh!! I believe what you’re seeing is the difference between the layers in the material. The top layer of the fretboard and that piece is fiberglass .010” thick, and the next layer is carbon fiber that, at least during Ken’s time, had the hexagonal pattern.

It seems that on some Flys, that top fiberglass layer is perhaps (becoming?) more transparent than others and allowing the carbon fiber to show through more than others—I doubt the fiberglass is “wearing out” with age, but it may be losing its pigment. My ‘93 redwood-neck Fly fretboard really shows a prominent hex pattern, for example, even though there’s a layer of fiberglass on top of it.

…either that or it was, in fact, another USM-era change!

Re: A summary of the Fly changes/issues through the years, and a brief history of Parker Guitars

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2023 1:59 pm
by Voice Of Reason
Question for VJ/Fly Stealth owners.

A listing I found said this model could use heavier gauge string. How heavy are we talking about (max - i.e. a 0.056” or more?).

Re: A summary of the Fly changes/issues through the years, and a brief history of Parker Guitars

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2023 6:06 pm
by vjmanzo
Voice Of Reason wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 1:59 pm How heavy are we talking about (max - i.e. a 0.056” or more?).
I have 13’s on mine, but tuned down to B standard; the tension is the main limitation, and there are calculators to help get that right. The only other limitation is the Sperzel diameter on the low string, which doesn’t quite clear anything larger that .059–but you can modify that opening if needed or just contact Sperzel and they’ll make you a single tuner with a larger hole (short post).

For reference, I have 13s on a Fly Concert as well that’s also tuned down to B standard and it plays and sounds great—no structural issues or other weirdnesses. The intonation with 13s is, for me, just working, so I wouldn’t go any heavier than that unless you’re open to modifying the bridge so that the saddles can move a bit more. 😬

Re: A summary of the Fly changes/issues through the years, and a brief history of Parker Guitars

Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 5:05 am
by vaya
More pictures of early Fly prototypes:

First and second picture are found on https://www.jazzguitar.be/forum/players ... chtop.html where a user shows a prototype from 1985 with three seemingly conventional single coils.

Third is Bob Palmieri of https://www.dunelandlabs.com who supplies the pick-up that Ken uses in his Archtops nowadays. Note the slightly textured finish reminiscent of the later Stealth Fly and humbuckers of his own design.

Both feature a much more accentuated contouring of the upper horn that has been left away in the production model.