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mark74
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@vjmanzo thank you for your efforts in recreating the springs! Truly a labor of love at this point, but it is very much appreciated.
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This is the aspect of my fly obsession that keeps me up at night. Literally everything else I can do a work around for and stay up and running. But if I run out of springs, my Parker just rots in its case. Yes I could block it off, but I just don’t get on with hard tails, and the fly trem is just sublime.
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Absolutely, @mark74; thanks for the kindness.

I'm not prepared to make a full update now, unfortunately, but I'm happy to share that, a few months ago, we made some major breakthroughs with our simulations and, later, confirmed with tests on actual springs that our simulation environment represents an accurate model of the Fly spring in its best possible state (e.g. unused, unworn, etc.)! In non-technical terms, this has given us what we need to meet and improve the function and durability of new springs and capture the same (or different, if desired!!) "feel" of the original spring; in our simulation environment, we can now substitute materials, perform tweaks, etc. and understand, to some degree, how those changes will play out in the real world. Whew!

Our goal, just to restate it, is not only to produce more Fly springs, but to understand, with clear, empirical data, what the current Fly springs are doing, what they ought to be doing, and, with that information: produce Fly springs that “feel” the same and perform better overall. We've got A LOT to share in terms of technical data and analysis of the original springs, and things are going really well, so I'm not losing any sleep, @Musikron and neither should you! :lol:
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Well, as an avid fly trem abuser and luthier of 20 years, feel free to send me some prototypes for testing once they’re ready!
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I'm very happy to hear about the trem news! I can't wait to get my hands on some 11s.
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Thanks, everyone; yes, I don’t want to sound over-confident, but we’re in good shape. 🙃

I promise that, when we get further along, we’ll put out an announcement for beta-testers! We’ll definitely need some Fly trem abusers, @Musikron!! 🤣
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@vjmanzo

Can you contact me in a PM about this. I have some technical info I can share about the springs... :ugeek:

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Mr303 wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:20 am I have an extra coveted spring for 10’s.....
If my 9 spring breaks I’ll have finger cramps!
Keep up the good work VJ et. al.

I have a spare 9 spring I would trade for your 10 if you are interested, by post though I am in Denmark.
cheers,
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Hi All. I would love to buy a collection of various spring weights should they become available. Please add me to the waiting list!

I do have a #9 that I would like to trade for a #10 if anybody has a 10 in good shape.

Thanks!!
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Interesting to see so many asks for 10s, makes me wonder if the 10s are just more popular, more prone to failure, etc. Given the age of these instruments and the fact the 9 came installed from the factory, I could see how the extra 10 spring could have been lost, so perhaps they are just rarer overall.

I love the light strings and super low action of the 9s. I tried to see if I could make a poll but I don't see how here, would be interesting to see peoples' preference!
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I’d wager that most Flys bought and sold since the brand was shelved have only had the factory 9 spring removed due to breaking.

I’m one of those guitar hoarders who, every time his preferred string gauge or brand changes, has to spend $100 putting the same strings on all his guitars so that they feel “right” when he picks one up. Thanks to some of the gentlemen in this community, I have my preferred springs (and some spares) for all my Flys, now.
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mark74 wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 6:25 am Interesting to see so many asks for 10s, makes me wonder if the 10s are just more popular, more prone to failure, etc.
Good thought! It turns out that all springs will eventually get a microscopic (literally) tear at some very specific points, which, ultimately, will cause them all to fail with repeated use.

mmmguitar wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 8:06 am every time his preferred string gauge or brand changes, has to spend $100 putting the same strings on all his guitars so that they feel “right” when he picks one up.
I love this! 🙂 I’m the same way!
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