Gregsaab wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 1:27 pm .007” @ 5th with 1&12 depressed.

Precisely Happy to help

I've check in with Ken and Cameron: they check relief at about the 4th/5th fret—the 5th fret is about halfway to the 12th fret, which is why he chooses to check at the 5th because "as the string gets shorter it needs less relief". Interesting. So .007” @ 5th with 1&12 depressed. Thank...

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Thanks, @Gregsaab! His archtops are very Fly-like!

I've check in with Ken and Cameron: they check relief at about the 4th/5th fret—the 5th fret is about halfway to the 12th fret, which is why he chooses to check at the 5th because "as the string gets shorter it needs less relief".

That sounds amazing, great playing. Those are beautiful instruments.

Was that relief measured with frets 1,24,12? I recall seeing something about Ken measuring @ 9th.

Thanks—yeah, there's a lot of lore and mis/missing information about Flys out there. Ken and his associate Cameron Willard both have research appointments in our lab at WPI, so they help fill in the gaps with some of this stuff. Yes! I have played his archtops! Here's a video of me playing Olive Bra...

I looked at my notes from a conversation I had with Ken a few years ago. Ken and I speak regularly about projects, and from time to time, he entertains my questions about the Fly and I write whatever he says down, so that I can organize and memorialize it here on FlyClone. We also spend an unusual ...

I looked at my notes from a conversation I had with Ken a few years ago. Ken and I speak regularly about projects, and from time to time, he entertains my questions about the Fly and I write whatever he says down, so that I can organize and memorialize it here on FlyClone. We also spend an unusual a...

Nice - how did you confirm the Bond relief?

vjmanzo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 9:01 am The relief was 7 thousandths of an inch: confirmed.

Otherwise known as the Bond relief - .007

The relief was 7 thousandths of an inch: confirmed.

The intention was to give the neck the correct shape ("zero-relief" as Marc pointed out) at the factory. Here's a fun fact from @Ken Parker: the guitars were strung up and the relief was adjusted before the carbon fiber strip and fiberglass layer were applied! So that shape of the neck wa...

The intention was to give the neck the correct shape ("zero-relief" or near-zero as Marc pointed out) at the factory. Here's a fun fact from Ken Parker : the guitars were strung up and the relief was adjusted before the carbon fiber strip and fiberglass layer were applied! So that shape of...

mmmguitar wrote: ↑Sat Feb 27, 2021 11:21 pmEvery Fly with the factory-installed nut that I have encountered was built with a zero-relief setup in mind.

What does this equate to in terms of measurements?

Yes, that’s an exact quote from an email Patrick sent me a few years back—give him a shout if you’d like and mention that you know V.J. Manzo: sales@iguitarworkshop.com +1 (845) 809-5347 Patrick LOVES to talk about his work, and I’m sure he’d be happy to chat with you about a proper Fly setup. .012”...

I misspoke in my previous post. Here’s the summary of my preferred setup laid out a little clearer: With D’Addario 010’s: -the action* is set to a little lower than 4/64” at the 24th fret -the neck relief** at .012” -the string height at the nut is .010” when pressing the 3rd fret *The 4/64” action ...

If this was my Fly, I would consider what @billy wrote, and make sure that the fretboard isn’t lifting. I would also take/send the guitar to an excellent tech that has experience working on Flys for a setup and assessment before it goes out to get plek’d. Yeah, that is a wise course of action. I’ll...

If this was my Fly, I would consider what @billy wrote, and make sure that the fretboard isn’t lifting. I would also take/send the guitar to an excellent tech that has experience working on Flys for a setup and assessment before it goes out to get plek’d.

So at a qty of 10 pieces, I can get these made in black delrin for just under $17. If I charge $20 and send first class mail, I think that would cover it. It will look very much like the original but not glossy, hard to remove tool marks in delrin. I updated the design to include a thru hole in the ...